Comments on: Flash vs Qt: The next battle? http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536 Cross-platform development: WRT | Flash Lite | Python | Symbian | Qt | Maemo | Meego Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:26:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: felipebzr http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-130746 felipebzr Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:25:31 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-130746 Hi Mark, what I really do not understand is why Android was selected to be the first device to support Adobe AIR. Marketing strategy? Maemo really rocks! Hi Mark, what I really do not understand is why Android was selected to be the first device to support Adobe AIR. Marketing strategy? Maemo really rocks!

]]> By: Mark Doherty http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-130549 Mark Doherty Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:36:00 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-130549 Hi Felipe, I think it's fair to say that there will always be issues when it comes to mobile device performance. This is not something that we can control, but the goal with the Open Screen Project is to fix the other issues. FP10.1 should meet your needs, and if not then shout about it! Maemo is a great platform and we obviously support them in porting desktop Flash 9, in fact they were the only device to ever ship apart from the PS3. At MAX you probably saw that we showed the N900 running Flash 10.1, which was by far the best demo in the keynote. We're not just focussed on Android, our goal is to cover all platforms, even the iPhone! Mark Hi Felipe,

I think it's fair to say that there will always be issues when it comes to mobile device performance. This is not something that we can control, but the goal with the Open Screen Project is to fix the other issues. FP10.1 should meet your needs, and if not then shout about it!

Maemo is a great platform and we obviously support them in porting desktop Flash 9, in fact they were the only device to ever ship apart from the PS3. At MAX you probably saw that we showed the N900 running Flash 10.1, which was by far the best demo in the keynote.

We're not just focussed on Android, our goal is to cover all platforms, even the iPhone!

Mark

]]> By: Felipe Andrade http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-126406 Felipe Andrade Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:57:26 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-126406 Hi Mark, I could consider using Adobe AIR on Android if Adobe team up with Google engineers to provide a Flash player version without so many restrictions and performance faults like occurs in Symbian. Just look for the Flash platform on Maemo. Why it does not matter for Adobe? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31120 Hi Mark, I could consider using Adobe AIR on Android if Adobe team up with Google engineers to provide a Flash player version without so many restrictions and performance faults like occurs in Symbian.

Just look for the Flash platform on Maemo. Why it does not matter for Adobe?
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31120

]]> By: Dimitris http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-126207 Dimitris Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:50:04 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-126207 "QT must push a scripting language" Actually it already supports the most common one... JavaScript! “QT must push a scripting language”

Actually it already supports the most common one… JavaScript!

]]> By: Winchell Chung http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-126193 Winchell Chung Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:05:17 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-126193 Nokia is working on a LGPL version of PyQt called PySide. Nokia is working on a LGPL version of PyQt called PySide.

]]> By: iongion http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-126192 iongion Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:42:52 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-126192 QT GUI has faaaar better performance than anything in flash(the exception which might testify the rule could be video) The only drawback ... the programming language. YES, c++ programmers are way better programmers than actionscript programmers (unless actionscript programmers come with c++/java/c# background) but their spread is like pluto and the entire solar system ... QT must push a scripting language for casual hackers, not everyone is Ray Tobay (Python might be good choice, but who would pay so much for pyqt when flexsdk/flashdevelop is so free) QT GUI has faaaar better performance than anything in flash(the exception which might testify the rule could be video)

The only drawback … the programming language.

YES, c++ programmers are way better programmers than actionscript programmers (unless actionscript programmers come with c++/java/c# background) but their spread is like pluto and the entire solar system …

QT must push a scripting language for casual hackers, not everyone is Ray Tobay (Python might be good choice, but who would pay so much for pyqt when flexsdk/flashdevelop is so free)

]]> By: Marcel Caraciolo http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-126074 Marcel Caraciolo Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:18:44 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-126074 I believe that Qt is a powerful platform, even if its essence is to be cross-platform. But on another way, Adobe with Flash platform is growing specially through other platforms than "Nokia" phones. It will be interesting to see both platforms challenging for space at mobile phones. I think Qt will be relevant, but Adobe with its goal to cross all mobile platforms (Samsung, LG, Android, etc...) has a great advantage at Qt platform. I believe that Qt is a powerful platform, even if its essence is to be cross-platform. But on another way, Adobe with Flash platform is growing specially through other platforms than “Nokia” phones. It will be interesting to see both platforms challenging for space at mobile phones.
I think Qt will be relevant, but Adobe with its goal to cross all mobile platforms (Samsung, LG, Android, etc…) has a great advantage at Qt platform.

]]> By: Marcel Caraciolo http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-126075 Marcel Caraciolo Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:18:44 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-126075 I believe that Qt is a powerful platform, even if its essence is to be cross-platform. But on another way, Adobe with Flash platform is growing specially through other platforms than "Nokia" phones. It will be interesting to see both platforms challenging for space at mobile phones. I think Qt will be relevant, but Adobe with its goal to cross all mobile platforms (Samsung, LG, Android, etc...) has a great advantage at Qt platform. I believe that Qt is a powerful platform, even if its essence is to be cross-platform. But on another way, Adobe with Flash platform is growing specially through other platforms than “Nokia” phones. It will be interesting to see both platforms challenging for space at mobile phones.
I think Qt will be relevant, but Adobe with its goal to cross all mobile platforms (Samsung, LG, Android, etc…) has a great advantage at Qt platform.

]]> By: Mark Doherty http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536&cpage=1#comment-126068 Mark Doherty Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:08:26 +0000 http://www.felipeandrade.org/blog/?p=536#comment-126068 Hi Felipe, I think it's fair to say that Qt is a great platform for cross-platform development. In fact our Photoshop Elements product is built on it :-) We've already completed our first step towards bringing AIR to devices with the launch of Flash Player 10.1. The first platform that we're working on for AIR is Android, and hopefully we'll see a beta next year. While Qt is a very fast platform there is always the larger issue of development workflow. Qt is largely C++ based and this won't make it accessible for designers and user experience efforts. Of course the XML component framework will help, but as ever this won't solve all problems. Adobe AIR has seen over 200million downloads now and while I think Qt is a great move for Symbian generally, I do fear that it's too little and too late. Mark Hi Felipe,

I think it’s fair to say that Qt is a great platform for cross-platform development. In fact our Photoshop Elements product is built on it :-)

We’ve already completed our first step towards bringing AIR to devices with the launch of Flash Player 10.1. The first platform that we’re working on for AIR is Android, and hopefully we’ll see a beta next year.

While Qt is a very fast platform there is always the larger issue of development workflow. Qt is largely C++ based and this won’t make it accessible for designers and user experience efforts. Of course the XML component framework will help, but as ever this won’t solve all problems.

Adobe AIR has seen over 200million downloads now and while I think Qt is a great move for Symbian generally, I do fear that it’s too little and too late.

Mark

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